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Dean Koontz is Anti-Animal

By May 22, 2010

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Bestselling author Dean Koontz is anti-animal and says that animal rights activists are "antihuman."

According to an article in National Journal Magazine, Koontz authored the foreword of an anti-animal rights book being distributed by the Center for Consumer Freedom, which is funded by the alcohol, tobacco, restaurant and meat industries. The CCF has been involved with fighting campaigns against obesity, supporting drinking and driving, and attacking organic farming. They even claim in a July 1, 1998 op-ed in Food Arts Magazine that there is a "lack of evidence that second-hand smoke causes cancer." You can find the CCF fighting just about any criticism of the alcohol, tobacco or food industries, arguing that people should have the freedom to endanger themselves and others if they choose to do so.

In his foreword, Koontz wrote that animal rights activists are "antihuman" and that if animal activists "ever succeeded in their goals, if they established through culture or law that human beings have no intrinsic dignity greater than that of any animal, the world would not be a better place for either humankind or animals. Instead, it would be a utilitarian nightmare in which the strong would destroy the weak."

Um, no, what we have now is a system where the strong destroy the weak.

And Koontz has been deceived by one of the top 12 animal rights myths - that animal rights activists care more about nonhuman animals than humans.

What's the difference between my saying that Koontz is anti-animal and Koontz saying that AR activists are anti-human? Koontz really is anti-animal, while AR activists are not anti-human. Koontz is arguing for a system where humans are allowed to imprison, abuse and kill animals, while AR activists advocate a system where all animals - human and nonhuman - are free of abuse and oppression. In the ideal animal rights world, no one is oppressed.

I've only bought one Dean Koontz book in my life ("Intensity") and was not impressed. I wasn't exactly planning on buying another one, but now I know that I will not buy another Dean Koontz book for as long as he is anti-animal.

Thanks to Paul Shapiro of HSUS for the link to the article.

 


 

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June 5, 2010 at 2:41 am
(1) A TX Rescue Grup says:

Anti Animal? Just because he won’t side in with the groups all listed on the terrorist watch lists? Do you really believe he is anti animal because he is anti animal rights activists? Animal rights activists have no problem bombing and shooting and attacking humans for the sake of animals. They want us to eat no animal products and to wear nothing made from animals they want us to own no animals or enjoy the company of animals. ARA’s are plain sick

June 5, 2010 at 10:21 am
(2) MDurham says:

Koontz is anti-animal? That’s just too bizarre a misstatement for words! Anyone who disagrees with the position and actions taken by the animal rights “true believer” fanatics is proclaimed anti-animal. The FACT is that the AR fanatics USE animals to further their own warped anti-societal, anti-human agenda to eliminate the human/animal bond and HURT humans as much as possible. If there are animal casualties, oh well, that’s acceptable “collateral damage” to these fanatics. Thank God, people are starting to wake up to the immoral and anti-societal belilefs and actions of the “animal rights” INDUSTRY participants (e.g., H$U$, PeTA, ALDF, AWI, and even the ASPCA).

June 5, 2010 at 11:40 am
(3) A realist says:

Your attack on Dean Koontz because he does not march in lockstep with your utopian political dogma speaks ill of you and well of him. I have read much of his lovely writing and will always continue to do so. Even more so because he had the courage to stand up to you folks.

June 5, 2010 at 12:06 pm
(4) Lynn says:

Good for Dean Koontz. Not drinking the Kalifornia Kool-Aid.

PETA, HSUS and a few other groups are so extreme that they are listed as terrorist organizations. I am an animal lover but think that California especially is over the top giving rights to animals over humans.

Keep up the good work, Dean!

June 5, 2010 at 2:03 pm
(5) Joe says:

Animal rights extremists always call someone anti-animal if they don’t agree with their extreme views. Good for Mr. Koontz sticking up for what he believes. He is an excellent writer, INTELLIGENT and thoughtful, and just because you don’t agree with him doesn’t make him anti-animal. AND, the animal rights people I have met DO care more for animals than they do for humans!

June 5, 2010 at 2:58 pm
(6) alice in LALA land says:

LOL.. CCF promotes alcohol?? You might want to know that HSUS is hosting an event today.. guess where.. at a WINERY.. guess what else.. one of the “big ticket” items in lunch at a fancy restaurant.. guess what is on the menu.. FOIE GRAS.. LOL HYPOCRITES
and God forbid that an individual should have the RIGHT to eat or drink what they please..even if does “endanger them”..LIFE is dangerous.. and then guess what.. you die.. give it up .. and Dean.. keep writing and I will keep reading
and as for “no oppression” um no.. the whole animal world is based on oppression.. only the lion calls it “eating” as does the tiger.. and the bear.. and the human

June 5, 2010 at 5:11 pm
(7) Jenn says:

This is the most LUDICROUS thing I’ve read in a while! Dean Koontz loves and understands animals. You should read his books. If you know animals, it is clear he loves them and understands how they think in many ways. His dog Trixie was very loved! The ARs, OTOH, poison animals, let them loose in areas where they are unsafe and could be killed, and prefer killing them to having them livinig in safety with people. Unreal…

June 5, 2010 at 5:25 pm
(8) Torry says:

If humans and animals were treated equal then a predator playing with it’s catch before killing and eating it would go to jail for abuse. An AR world would mean no human animal contact but it would not be free from abuses.

Die hard ARs don’t want you even having pets because they are “slaves”. Sure they go after scary breeds first like pit bulls or exotic pets but they will come for your fluffy next.

June 5, 2010 at 5:34 pm
(9) gene says:

Once again we have an Animal Rights extremist presenting the distorted view that people who do not believe animals should be accorded the same rights as humans are “anti-animal.”

Rather than try to find my own words to refute that twisted logic, I invite readers to read a couple articles that rationally explain why Doris Lin and others like her are promoting a false view of reality.

June 5, 2010 at 5:42 pm
(10) 4myk9s says:

Dean Koontz has a dog in almost every book he writes, and typically the dog is hero. Just because the man has not drank the animal rights kool aid and knows the difference between animal rights and animal welfare, THERE IS A DIFFERENCE does not mean he is anti animal.

All the more reason to buy his books.

Maybe you should actually read some of the information posted on the CCF page and you would learn what they are about too

June 5, 2010 at 5:44 pm
(11) gene says:

Well, I guess if one incurs the wrath of the author of this article with facts, the comment will be destroyed before it can even be submitted.

Rather try to reconstruct the comment that was hijacked, I’ll just provide a couple links to articles that present my views better than I can express them:

http://abraxasbostons.com/Animal%20%E2%80%9CRights%E2%80%9D%20or%20Animal%20Welfare.pdf

http://tinyurl.com/2aj5w4s

http://www.discovery.org/a/14671

I would have preferred to include an introductory quote from each of these pages but I expect that would result in my comment being aborted again. Whether you would like to be enlightened, or just have reinforcement for a rational view of the flaws of “animal rights” extremists, these articles can supply that material.

gene

June 5, 2010 at 7:21 pm
(12) Fred says:

Seriously? Once again Animal Right-ists pushing the ideology that if you don’t agree with their agenda you are anti-animal.

Sorry, don’t buy that “ticket” for one minute.

Dean you have my vote and I agree with you! Your are thoughtful in your wording and right on track.

June 5, 2010 at 7:47 pm
(13) david says:

Another AR rant in trying to kill the messenger rather than opposing the opinion of Dean Koontz‭ based on facts. The truth is most AR’s are in need of professional help.

Doris Lin, go get some help, you’ll be happier for it.

June 5, 2010 at 8:12 pm
(14) P. Herschman says:

Are you kidding? Dean and his wife, Gerda, LOVE animals. They have owned Golden Retrievers (or should I say have been owned by their Goldens?) and are members of the Golden Retriever Club of America. They have also been staunch supporters of Canines for Independence and have contributed many dollars to that organization. THE AUTHOR OF THIS ARTICLE NEEDS TO GET HIS FACTS STRAIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!! Shame on anybody publishing this garbage!

June 5, 2010 at 9:29 pm
(15) Luvs Animals in Texas says:

Just another example of the AR EXTREMISTS putting out more propaganda, twisting facts, and trying to cover up their true goals. Dean Koontz loves animals and you writing this article is just more proof that you live in a fantasy world. Why can’t you people say what you really stand for, which is no animals to be owned (and loved, by the way) by humans. You promote that all dogs, cats, birds, hamsters, etc., should live in the wild and that would end the abuse. Are you kidding me? Have you ever rescued a dog or cat that has lived in the wild and had to nurse them back to health from starvation and dehydration?

Yes, there are people that abuse animals. They should be executed! Deal with those people, don’t brand everyone!! Most people love their animals and give them great homes. There are a lot of people who abuse their children. Does that mean all children should be turned out to live in the wild?

Ludicrous!

June 5, 2010 at 10:15 pm
(16) Rosebud75093 says:

Typical AR rhetoric. Never get tired of it. Anti-animal, because he writes a forward for CCF. By the way, the reason that is such an evil thing, folks, is that CCF is currently funding a “watchdog” group, and their purpose is to keep an eye on the HSUS, which is NOT affiliated in any way with your local Humane Society. Oh, they do provide a whopping 1/2 of 1% of financial support to a very limited number of shelters with dogs and cats. Most of their financial support (what little it is…) goes to large cat, horse, and primate sanctuaries. So don’t be fooled any longer by their ads. The largest portion goes to lobby for animal rights laws in this country…not only attempting to increase regulation on our pets…but to also “tighten” regulation on the ag industry, and some would venture, to wean us off all animal “exploitation” as a long term goal. A bit deceptive, perhaps?

As for AR NOT being anti-human? Well, I have some lists on the internet, then, and what one would consider “mainstream” I’d like you to visit…because the rhetoric there, is beyond frightening. The threats made against “humans” as a race…and that the planet, and her flora and fauna would be much better off without humans…(and those are the “nice” comments….) I think qualifies as anti-human. And radical organizations already exist which are not beyond firebombing research facilities, farms, and businesses which “make” money from animals. They threaten the leaders of these companies and departments, and their children. Some of them are listed AS domestic terrorist organizations. And this “if you’re not for us/with us…then you’re against us…” drivel must stop. People can have various degrees of belief, understanding, support and opposition, without being evil incarnate.

June 6, 2010 at 1:21 am
(17) Doris says:

Thank you, Dean Koontz fans, for your comments!

A TX Rescue Grup: Animal rights activists *do* have a problem with attacking, bombing and shooting humans. Humans are animals, too.

MDurham: Animal rights activists are not trying to hurt humans.

alice in LALA land: HSUS is not an animal rights group.

Jenn: I see that you have numerous misconceptions about animals rights, and I invite you to explore this site.

Torry: AR activists do not want to take Fluffy away from anyone. Also, AR activists oppose breed-specific legislation and do not go after pit bulls.

gene: No one says that animals should be accorded the same rights as humans. No one wants cats to drive or dogs to vote. That’s just silly. I clicked on your link and saw many blog posts attacking HSUS (which is not an animal rights organization) but nothing about a false view of reality. Can you explain what you mean by that?

June 6, 2010 at 1:27 am
(18) Doris says:

4myk9s and Fred: Advocating for a system where animals are hunted, farmed, skinned and experimented on for humans is anti-animal.

David: Here are some facts: Over 9 billion land animals are slaughtered for food every year in the U.S. About 10 million animals are trapped and killed worldwide for fur every year, and another 30 million are raised in cages and killed for fur. Tens of millions of animals are used in experiments in the US every year.

P. Herschman: The Golden Retriever Club of America is a pro-hunting and pro-breeding organization. Not an animal protection organization. There are a lot of people who love their own pets, but advocate the use and killing of other animals.

Luvs Animals in Texas: I have very clearly stated what I stand for, and it does not involve releasing domestic animals in the wild, which would be cruel abadonment and should be punished criminally.

Rosebud75093: Koontz is not anti-animal because he wrote a foreword for CCF; he is anti-animal because of what he wrote in his foreword for the CCF. And have you found a single word on this site that supports terrorism or violence? One the other hand, where does Koontz stand on killing animals for food, fashion or entertainment?

June 6, 2010 at 9:51 am
(19) Jenn says:

I have read the AR agendas. I had to laugh at the 12 Myths site.
11. Myth: Animal rights activists want to impose their views on everyone else.
Fact: Animal rights activists are not trying to impose their views on anyone. The animal rights movement uses public outreach, education and persuasion, not force. Even campaigns to change laws are based on organizing enough voters to make it politically advantageous for legislators to support animal protection.

Okay, so tell me…. if you are NOT imposing your views on everyone else, then what is pushing thru laws that would support your views and deny us our current rights? Don’t you see the hypocracy in the above statement?

Additionally, #12 is that Veganism is healthy. I know of several who are NOT healthy. You can look at them and see a palor. They look kind of caved in and anemic. I know one who can’t get pregnant and the doctors suspect diet.

No one is saying you have to eat meat, where leather shoes, or breed animals. We do not force meat down your throat or make you own pets from breeders. But many of us believe in these behaviors. We believe in ANIMAL WELFARE and support the humane housing and care of animals. We just want to continue to have that right. So keep your agenda to yourself! Live the way you want but don’t expect others to have to do what you do if we don’t want to. The eating of animals is a natural process and meant to be done. Look at nature for proof.

And BTW, you misrepresented the comment about supporting “drinking and driving”. Even the founder of MADD has disassociated with that organization because it has become “anti alcohol”. The laws they are trying to push thru now go far beyond drunk driving, which was the message in the link you provided.

June 6, 2010 at 10:01 am
(20) Jenn says:

HSUS is DEFINITELY an AR Group!!! Their name is deceptive on purpose and they want to PRETEND they aren’t AR so as to continue to pull the wool over the eyes of pet owners who send them money thinking it is going towards the type things local humane societies support, like caring for animals in need. Many have been so deceived by HSUS! Read HSUS policies! AR completely. For them to say they don’t support some of their views as proof proves nothing. I will give them the fact that perhaps they don’t support the extreme tactics of some of the ARs., but OTOH, reputable breeders don’t support the puppy mills and dogs kept in small rabbit cages, either, although they support the right to keep animals humanely in many different animal industries including dairies, beef farms, poultry and egg facilities, etc.
You have the right to NOT hunt, eat meat, or wear leather. FINE! Let us have the right to do these things IF WE SO CHOOSE. HSUS is definitely AR!!!!

June 6, 2010 at 11:39 am
(21) Laughing out loud says:

Honestly how do all these dingalings get an internet column? Doris, “The Golden Retriever Club of America is a pro-hunting and pro-breeding organization”???!?! That’s what you get out of the club? OMG, I have to get off this site before I kill myself with laughter.

June 6, 2010 at 12:41 pm
(22) animalwelfarefirst says:

You should do your homework before making yourself look so foolish in writing such a silly article about Dean Koontz.

HSUS wants no animal use by humans. That means no pets, no consumption of meat, milk or dairy. They are doing this by laws they lobby for at the city, state and local level. They use deception at every turn, because they do not express their agenda openly. They even ask children and teenagers to lobby for these animal rights laws that will one day make owning a pet a crime.

It is called incrementalism – moving the middle. Laws are put in place, then tightened and made more restrictive over time. They HOPE that people will not see the steps taken, but WAKE UP, PEOPLE – one day those laws will be so strict you will wonder what happened, and you will have a two-dog limit and you own three dogs, and you can thank HSUS for pushing that. Then, one day, no dogs/no cats/no ownership. It’s happening across the country, and we who are feeling it are fighting back.

Thank you, Dean Koontz, for writing, and for loving your animals and for putting the warning about AR out there. I applaud you. I don’t often read novels, but I’m going buy your novels right away, and I will spread the word about how you support true animal welfare.

June 6, 2010 at 3:02 pm
(23) Ilene Cook says:

Thank you Koontz for speaking out about these animal activists weirdos!!!! Too many famous people get caught up speaking out for their side and NEVER take the time to research how very bad they really are. The prey on the public for donations for poor abused animals..but who ever reports where that money Really goes. Yeah..it is not the organizations themselves but the crazy whackos that they enlist. Without them the organizations would not even be.

June 6, 2010 at 11:18 pm
(24) P Herschman says:

Doris I suggest YOU read HSUS’s own website! Wayne even says something to the effect that he would like to see the banning of all breeding of animals in 1 generation! I wonder where YOU will get YOUR next pet when all the pets have been sterilized. You might be lucky for the next one but the one after that? No breeding means NO pets! Jenn’s comments were right on. HSUS doesn’t support animal WELFARE but is in the business of eliminating human/animal interaction, including breeding of any kind. Also if you think that Mother Nature is “kind” to wild animals and their deaths then you’ve never seen a wolf pack take down a deer or a pride of lions kill a zebra. It is NOT pretty nor is it quick like a bullet. As for the GRCA promoting the killing of birds, a working retriever actually helps to save lives as it will retrieve wounded birds as well as those who have died. Since hunters (and people ARE going to hunt with or without dogs) are limited in the number of birds that they can hunt, any bird that gets away is one less to be counted in the day’s limit. Now I am sure that in your warped logic you will say something to the effect that see “I’m right , the GRCA is promoting the killing of birds”, when in fact the GRCA is promoting the use of a dog that has been bred to help man conserve game. I might add that this organization of 6000 people have donated millions of dollars for both animal rescue and research into animal diseases through the Morris Animal Foundation. When was the last time that HSUS did either of those two things. It was also the FIRST animal related organization to offer assistance to people and their animals after Katrina as well as many of the rescues who were impacted because of the number of homeless dogs. Unfortunately HSUS took control and PREVENTED not only GRCA but many other breed clubs from helping. Of course they (HSUS) still haven’t explained where the $30 million that was collected after Katrina and to be used for the rescue and care of those animals affected. If you don’t believe me, you might check with the Atty General of Louisiana as I believe that office is still investigating the situation. So tell me again which organization promotes animal welfare? If YOU really care about animals the way that you would like us all to believe, then I suggest that you go to your local shelter with a donation and volunteer your time. You will find it rewarding and many more animals will benefit than you spouting HSUS propaganda on a blog.

June 7, 2010 at 5:35 am
(25) animalrights says:

Thank you, all, for your comments.

Gene: I’m not sure what you mean about your “aborted” comment, but I can assure you that comments are not censored according to viewpoint. Because your second comment contained numerous links, it had to be approved before it appeared, so that’s why it was delayed. The abraxasbostons essay contains numerous misconceptions about the AR movement. Althought the AR movement is not monolithic, most activists and organizations are vehemently opposed to BSL and pet limit laws. PETA is an anomaly in supporting BSL. Also, not every activist/group supports mandatory spay/neuter. For example, read animal rights activist Nathan Winograd’s blog against mandatory S/N laws.

Yes, there is a big difference between animal rights and animal welfare, as I explain here, and that’s why I support animal rights.

Laughing Out Loud: If you’d like to have an intelligent conversation about this issue, please explain why you disagree with my statement.

Jenn: We cannot remain silent in the face of injustice. Also, grassroots lobbying is not the same as imposing one’s views on others. Legislation will not pass unless it has the support of the majority. That’s not imposing one’s views – it’s called democracy.

Jenn, animalwelfarefirst and P Herschman: If HSUS supports animal rights, I’m all for it! I just wish it were true.

P Herschman: If you believe that HSUS’s fundraising is suspect, that is a completely different issue from whether animals deserve rights.

June 7, 2010 at 5:47 am
(26) animalrights says:

Jenn, this is a quote from the CCF: “In March 2004, MADD expanded its attack on responsible adults by calling for a ‘mandatory provision in every separation agreement and divorce decree that prohibits either parent from drinking and driving … with minor children in the vehicle.’”

June 7, 2010 at 11:27 am
(27) Stephanie E. says:

Thanks for the smart post, as always, Doris — and kudos for your ability to respond to rabid, defensive, uninformed fan comments with grace and patience and factual information.

June 7, 2010 at 12:09 pm
(28) Kelly G. says:

I also love how he conflates utilitarianism with animal rights – Singer et al. are welfarists, hello!

June 7, 2010 at 12:36 pm
(29) Eric says:

Wow, Doris. I don’t know how you put up with all these rabidly ignorant, rude, and defensive comments.

I used to be a Koontz fan (way back when), but I’m glad I haven’t touched any of his books in over a decade. They were getting pretty vapid anyway.

June 7, 2010 at 4:30 pm
(30) Aubrey flux says:

Your one sided attack on Dean Koontz is Wrong.You fail to mention that he owned and loved a dog from a rescue home for many years,you also fail seem to forget he makes animals an important part of his books.The next time you want to slag someone off do your homework.

June 7, 2010 at 6:29 pm
(31) dee says:

Nathan Winograd is NOT an AR activist and I think he would be very upset to be lumped in with the rest of you kool-aid drinkers. Perhaps you should read his book and explore his website a little more carefully http://www.nathanwinograd.com/

June 7, 2010 at 10:45 pm
(32) alice in LALA land says:

Doris Says: Animal rights activists *do* have a problem with attacking, bombing and shooting humans. Humans are animals, too.
But not female humans I guess or even male humas:]\
“Every woman ensconced in fur should endure a rape so vicious that it scars them forever. While every man entrenched in fur should suffer an anal raping so horrific that they become disemboweled.”
From one of “yours” Gary somebosy.. I am sure you know him.. and proably agree with him.. Think that goes for Eskimos too?

June 8, 2010 at 12:25 am
(33) Rinalia says:

It is unsurprising someone who sides with an organization that believes obesity is not an epidemic and drunk driving isn’t an issue would also support the notion that animal rights activists are anti-human. Who’s really imbibed the Kool-Aid?

June 8, 2010 at 11:12 am
(34) Nancy says:

Doris said: “Here are some facts: Over 9 billion land animals are slaughtered for food every year in the U.S. About 10 million animals are trapped and killed worldwide for fur every year, and another 30 million are raised in cages and killed for fur. Tens of millions of animals are used in experiments in the US every year.”

Doris,
Why don’t you offer a comparison? How many animals in the wild are killed every day by other animals for food?

How many animals are “trapped” by mother nature in the form of fallen trees, floods, and fires (many caused by lightning strikes)?

How many times have you seen bird nests or wild animal nests lined with fur from other animals?

How many of the fruits and vegetables we eat are dead BEFORE we pick them to use for food? How many times has research shown that when you talk to plants they grow faster and stronger than plants left on their own?

How many people reading here remember when HSUS used to boldly state they were “the largest animal rights group in the country”? It was changed to “welfare” only after people started to see that animal rights and animal welfare were two completely different things.

Dean Koontz is a wonderful writer and an intelligent person who understands the difference between welfare and rights for animals. He also understands that humans hunt animals to eat just as every other animal on this earth does, whether they walk, run, swim, or fly. I think you and the author of this story are the ones in need of a reality check, not Mr. Koontz.

June 8, 2010 at 11:27 am
(35) Nancy says:

Doris, I for got one comparison I would like you to show us figures for:

How many human AND animal lives have been saved and continue to be saved daily due to research findings compared to the number of animals who gave their lives? How many soldiers who defend our country are alive due to animals used in research and medical training?

Maybe another good question is how many humans and animals would you wish to see die rather than allow animal research for those things computers simply cannot simulate?

Have you ever used pain killers for any reason? Any diabetics or heart patients in your family? Anyone you care about walking because of replacement joints? These are just a few of the things animao research has helped with.

How many plants, fruits, and vegetables die every day so a vegan can live? The fact is, nothing on this planet survives without something else dying to feed it, clothe it, or keep it warm and healthy in some way.

June 8, 2010 at 11:40 am
(36) Shannon D says:

It doesn’t bother me that people have different opinions – that’s their right, as it is mine and everyone else’s. What bothers me is when people are are OBVIOUSLY misunderstanding sources or just haven’t really read them have such a popular place to share those opinions. If someone was posting saying they think everyone has a right to breed, including commercial breeders, because those pets are great and healthy and absolutely perfect in every way, they would CLEARLY be misinformed. They’re supporting “breeding” which is better than supporting the spay/neuter of ALL animals which basically is what PETA and H$U$ want (I agree with spay/neuter for many pets.. but I show dogs and hope to breed way in the future when I’m in a better situation to do so. In addition, the Scandinavian countries have very low s/n rates but much fewer unwanted animals. Why? because people are more RESPONSIBLE regarding their pets). HOWEVER I also comment on those types of posts, because they’re just as bad if not WORSE than posts like this one.

I did a project about animal rights and testing on animals for school about 6 or 7 years ago. The books I used were older, published in the late 80s and in the 90s. Even those books talked about the extreme measures animals rights organizations take. It talked about how PETA had funded ALF (the Animal Liberation Front, which even then the FBI had listed as a terrorist organization) for some legal stuff, and not some low expense, either. It hundreds of thousands or even millions of dollars.

@Rinalia… I believe obesity is an epidemic. A big problem is school lunches: they’re complete GARBAGE. On top of that, parents are feeding their kids other junk. So many people eat fast food every day. You can’t ban fast food just because it does cause some problems… it’s cheap and quick and easy so people are going to eat it. Most kids don’t have much of a choice of what to eat for lunch. Fixing school lunches would have a much bigger impact than just getting rid of McDonald’s. Drunk driving is a huge issue as well, but as someone said, CCF has become anti-alcohol… and what’s the sense in getting rid of alcohol completely? The US did that once, and that ended, obviously. Either is punishing people because a few people did something wrong with the options they had. Same thing goes for PETA and HSUS not wanting anyone to use animals in any way, including as pets. Just because some people totally screwed up (“puppy mills,” abusers, people not spaying/neutering their pets but then letting them do whatever and not being responsible), animals shouldn’t be removed from our lives completely.

I am ALL for animal welfare. There are a lot of other things I’m also in support of, but they don’t matter here as much. Animal rights is ridiculous. I’m not saying animals don’t deserve to be treated well and be free of disease and major discomfort, but if that means nobody is allowed to eat animals because of how they’re slaughtered (or raised… and for that, how many Americans would actually be able to eat meat that was purely raised organically and grass fed? A farm in my area sells their ground beef for almost $10/lb! I asked about chicken and beef “leftovers” and was told that they sell them for $4/lb! That’s for the stuff very few people want to eat. Chicken feet – great for dog chews and wonderful for their teeth, as well as being a really great source of glucosamine and chondroitin for joints – were $2/lb! I bought some at the grocery store for 59 cents a pound last week, and even that was too much for what it is, but a great treat for my dogs. YES animals raised this way (organic, grass fed, “free range” chicken and eggs…) are better for you, and are in a better situation. Until the majority of people can afford to buy it, though, I wouldn’t support NO other meat being sold. Nothing wrong with encouraging people to eat it… but not giving them the option? Please. Animal proteins are a much much much better source of protein than plant proteins, which isn’t to say that plant proteins don’t have their place, just that some meat or other animal foods like eggs and dairy is better than none at all. That doesn’t mean a big fatty steak every day. ANIMAL WELFARE is not animal rights. Animal welfare means better conditions. It means not having the serious overcrowding, and not giving cattle any of their natural food. Cows aren’t really meant to eat an all-corn diet. Animal rights activists usually, from what I’ve seen, don’t support any animal testing.. including medical testing. Insulin and heart transplants, along with many many MANY prescriptions that people rely on to live a healthier life would not exist without testing on animals. Medical testing on animals, as long as it’s as humane as possible, is no problem, for me. ANY cosmetic testing, though, is disgusting. People won’t die if they don’t have their makeup or their hairspray that was sprayed into a rabbit’s eyes to test how caustic it is if it remains in an eye. People DO die if they don’t have their insulin that was originally discovered in animals (dogs, I believe? could be wrong). In addition to that, research at universities is all under IACUC – institutional animal care and use committee, I think? Any research that can be done with painkillers for animals if it’s something that would cause pain, has to be done with painkillers. Any research that causes more than momentary pain (such as injections) has a lot more trouble starting. If it can be done with less pain, it doesn’t get accepted until those changes have been made. A teacher can’t even use a live animal such as a dog in their class without proper paperwork – and it’s for that one specific animal. My professor was telling us about how to bring her own dog in, she has to explain that dog’s entire background. That includes where he was obtained, what he is fed and on what schedule, what kind of exercise he gets and when, etc. That goes for ANY animal she wants to bring into class, which is an Animal Science class. She also just can’t bring in a different dog. If IACUC controls a pet dog owned by a professor coming into class SO much, I think you can see how controlled animal testing in universities is.

Good for Dean Koontz for standing up for something he really believes.

June 8, 2010 at 8:56 pm
(37) Pemmom says:

Dean Koontz is on the BOD of Canine Companions for Independence! He supports rescue and responsible breeding. WOW – I guess that means he’s anti-animal? NOT – he’s anti animal rights and pro animal welfare. Bless him for his views.

June 10, 2010 at 12:50 am
(38) animalrights says:

Thanks to everyone for your comments!

Aubrey flux: Lots of people love their dogs but have no problem with the killing of other animals.

Dee: Nathan wrote to me in an email from September, 2009: “Like you, I consider myself an animal rights person, as opposed to an animal welfare person, and I too have been vegan for about 20 years. In fact, I have a vegan cook book being published in 2010.” Nathan also talks about being vegan in his blog.

alice in LALA land: I absolutely condemn that comment. I do not know every person who considers themselves an animal rights activist, and without a last name, I can’t say whether I know Gary. I do think it’s important to point out that comments like Gary’s tend to be grandstanding and I’m pretty sure he has not carried it out. On the other hand, people who are anti-animal kill animals and buy and consume dead animals and their body parts on a regular basis.

June 10, 2010 at 1:08 am
(39) animalrights says:

Nancy, other animals do not have a choice. A lion cannot choose to be vegan, but we can. Do you really believe that “humans hunt animals to eat just as every other animal on this earth does”? Do other animals use high-powered rifles with scopes? Do they have the heads and hides taxidermied so that they can display their “trophies”? Do they breed animals just to be hunted and fished? Do other animals eat so much animal flesh that their arteries become clogged with cholesterol, despite the recommendations of their doctors? I know that I don’t hunt other animals, because I don’t need to.

Nancy, it doesn’t matter how many people or animals have been saved by animal experimentation. It’s immoral, and we have other ways of conducting bio-medical research. In the US, we no longer test on people without their informed consent, no matter how many people would be saved. You want to know how many plants die every day so a vegan can live? About one-twentieth the number that have to die every day so that an omnivore can live. Feeding grain or grass to an animal and then eating the animal is extremely inefficient. It takes 20 times more land to support a person on an onmivorous diet compared to someone on a vegan diet.

June 10, 2010 at 1:24 am
(40) animalrights says:

Shannon D: I’m always baffled when people say that HSUS does not want people to keep pets. On this website, HSUS debates an animal rights activist on whether people should keep pets. HSUS takes the position that people should keep pets. I’ve seen people quote Wayne Pacelle from nearly 20 years ago, saying people should not keep pets, but that was before he was with HSUS. It’s wrong to confuse Pacelle’s personal views with the organization’s official position. Also, IACUC’s are notorious for rubber-stamping proposals, because they are made up of scientists approving each other’s experiments.

Pemmom: CCI is not an animal protection organization.

Stephanie E, Kelly G and Eric: Thank you so much for your supportive comments!

June 14, 2010 at 10:57 pm
(41) David R. says:

May Dean Koontz be blessed. Animals have been a treamendous part of his life as is depicted in his books. Animals have also been a treamendous part of my life as well through companionship, working relationships through education and my stomach has also been well served my many of God’s creatures both born and unborn.

While my comments are self serving, they are certainly no more self serving as the mindless dribble that has been authored and accussed of being an article.

June 15, 2010 at 7:08 pm
(42) Mike in California says:

Anyone who says that Dean Koontz is anti-animal must be completely unfamiliar with his work. Off the top of my head I can think of many examples where Koontz writing indicates a belief that animals have thoughts and experience emotions. In The Watchers, Seize the Night, and Fear Nothing, Koontz uses thinking, feeling canines as main characters. In Dragon Tears, once the smoke clears, a stray dog is the hero of the story. Anyone who reads Brother Odd would have to conclude that Koontz believes that dogs have souls. Also, in The Watchers, even the genitically engineered primate who’s hunting the main character (a dog) feals dispair over his existance. Read some Koontz The author, who says Koontz is ant-animal, is simply ignorant.

June 17, 2010 at 5:12 am
(43) Amy C says:

Doris, I agree with you 100% and am sorry to read all the ignorant and defensive comments on this thread. The current system is indeed one where the strong destroy the weak. The abuse and consumption of animals and their secretions, etc is entirely based on the flawed notion of ‘might makes right’.

I’ve written about veganism in the past and received much of the same type of comments. Sadly some people cannot look beyond their own self interest!

July 6, 2010 at 7:25 am
(44) veganelder says:

Jeez Doris,

You sure managed to stir up some folks, rather your pointing out what Mr. Koontz said stirred up some folks. Mr. Koontz is apparently oblivious to the current “might makes right” manner in which most humans relate to other animals. His supporters, I presume, support that notion but don’t want anyone to say it out loud.

I can see why they would want to keep such a grotesque attitude hidden (or at least unspoken).

Keep up the good work Ms. Lin….Mr. Koontz and his supporters, and all of us, benefit from clarity…..even if it is uncomfortable for some.

July 13, 2010 at 10:18 am
(45) John says:

Doris, the schemers spamming your comments are AKC breeders and the like who get stipends from Rick Berman and his corrupt Center for Consumer Freedom. Rick Berman lobbies for the AKC and the puppy mills and pet stores they are in nusiness with.

The AKC makes its money from puppy mill registrations. http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=American_Kennel_Club#AKC.2C_NAIA_.26_state_breeders_associations They support puppy mills and animal cruelty for profit. They oppose regulations.

The AKC lobbies with Rick Berman and CCF to smear humane groups that support animals, fight against cruelty, and support regulation. Here is the AKC board board member who handles the puppy mill business and supports animal cruelty. http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=National_Animal_Interest_Alliance

Patti Strand supports heinous animal abuse, and smears HSUS etc with CCF while she cooks up business with Petland, broker Hunte Corporation, etc.

She works with Rick Berman, and she enlists her AKC breeders to support CCF.

These AKC breeders don’t get their dog shows paid for if there is puppy mill regulation, and they lose some puppy mill registration money. Hence, they hate HSUS and other groups who support puppy mill regulation, and they lobby with CCF.

Rick Berman sent an email out to his clients and supporters to attack you, and they are here doing just that, to try to hide the abuse that CCF supports and is paid millions to support.

Nathan Winograd is also working with and supported by CCF and NAIA, despite his claims to the contrary. He even republishes their propaganda. Money is a big controller and warper.

Dean Koontz got paid by Rick Berman to propagandize. He’s a paid talking head. How sad that his ethics are so corrupted.

Rick Berman

http://bermanexposed.org/

http://www.consumerdeception.com/index.asp

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Center_for_Consumer_Freedom

July 13, 2010 at 10:22 am
(46) John says:

“Dean Koontz is on the BOD of Canine Companions for Independence!”

These are dog breeders who make vast amounts of money SELLING DOGS and abusing the disabled so these breeders can make money, much of which goes unreported and untaxed.

This is FOR PROFIT business for this breeding organization, while ethical groups successfully use shelter dogs to help the disabled.

Dean Koontz is persecuting the disabled by supporting this profit activity.

I would imagine that perhaps these corrupt breeders manipulated a rather silly man to play their patsy for their lobbyist, Rick Berman.

July 13, 2010 at 10:35 am
(47) John says:

And Doris, these animal profiteers all know they are lying to you with their smear and lies. They joke among theselves about tricking the naive.
They have been doing the same thing for years.

They’ve been outright lying about HSUS for years. They assume that people are stupid, and don’t realize the breeders and animal profiteers who smear HSUS are trying to trick and manipulate.

They just tell the same lies over and over again as they get rich from abusing animals thanks to few regulations.

They just keep smearing the humane groups that stand up to their cruelties.

Again, as for Nathan Winograd, he has become a very bad person when it comes to animals. He sold out to Rick Berman and NAIA, and he tries to hide it with the vegan thing, but what he is doing with CCF, NAIA, AKC and the like in the shadows would make you sick. He opposes mandatory spay neuter laws for the breeders, as that might mean fewer puppy mill registrations for AKC, and also breeders would have to get licensed, and most are committing tax fraud and hiding their incomes thanks to lack of licensing and regulation. That is the deal he cut with the breeders so they would support him.

How do I know? I used to be an AKC breeder. I know first hand. Nathan Winograd sold out to the animal profiteers, as has Dean Koontz.

July 16, 2010 at 11:59 am
(48) Doris says:

Thank you for your comments, John. Yes, I realized after a while that the comments were coming from animal breeders; not Dean Koontz fans.

I have not heard of Winograd working with breeders, although they are on the same side of the issue when it comes to mandatory S/N laws. If he made a “deal” at the animals’ expense, that would be very disturbing, but if they are sincerely on the same side of an issue, some unexpected alliances can sometimes work.

February 22, 2011 at 5:57 am
(49) Caye Rose says:

I’d like to read the entire forward Dean Koontz wrote for this alleged book for the Center for Consumer Freedom. Where can I get a copy? What was the name of said book?

February 22, 2011 at 2:44 pm
(50) animalrights says:

Hi, Caye,

The book is “A Rat Is a Pig Is a Dog Is a Boy: The Human Cost of the Animal Rights Movement,” by Wesley J. Smith. The National Journal article says that the Center for Consumer Freedom is giving the book away for free, but I’m not sure how to get a copy.

May 4, 2011 at 7:20 pm
(51) William says:

My mother and I are both Dean Koontz fans and are proud of him for stepping up against these elitist loons also known as animal rights supporters.

March 12, 2012 at 8:02 am
(52) Sean McVan says:

Stupid god believers, humans have responsibilities of thought, animals don’t, if you mess up you do deserve the punishment of death. I bet Jesus liked burning cats in a bag.

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